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6 years 1 week ago #2 by Woody
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Hi Andrew,

I love the look of this vehicle, will look forward to following your build.

The Ferdi always comes out of my garage whenever i have a bash on World of Tanks B)



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6 years 1 week ago #3 by KitModellerNZ
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Looking good so far.

I've got the Tamiya Elefant in my stash and I'm looking forward to building it... once I've finished a couple of other kits. :blush:

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6 years 1 week ago #4 by Tiger
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Nice Andrew
Looking forward to seeing what you do with this one.
Always a pleasure watching your builds.
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4 years 9 months ago #5 by Andrew
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Since the weather has been mud, I haven't been able to paint the Sd.kfz.222 I pulled this back to the bench.

I spent most of the afternoon sanding moulding marks off the back of the Magic Tracks. Around 250 of them :blink:

First run of tracks fitted tonight



Will do the other side tomorrow, then finish the last details remain on Friday. I have couple of kits hopefully arriving on Friday, one of which I want to make a start on the weekend, so want this one finished up ready to paint B)

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4 years 9 months ago #6 by Maarten
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'' I could sense things were about to kick off, so I got out of there !''


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4 years 9 months ago #7 by Bishop
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Nice work mate. Glad this is up and running again.

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4 years 9 months ago #8 by grover
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She's not a pretty tank is she, but I wouldnt want to be on the wrong end of her. Is it German? Spanish? Italian? Nice work picking it back up mate

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4 years 9 months ago #9 by gibbs
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grover wrote: She's not a pretty tank is she, but I wouldnt want to be on the wrong end of her. Is it German? Spanish? Italian? Nice work picking it back up mate


It's German known after the elefant but named the ferdinand after it's designer Dr. Ferdinand Porsche

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4 years 9 months ago #10 by olive drab
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Originally built on the Porsche Tiger 1 chassis which lost out to the Henschel design. 90 Ferdinand's were built for the Kursk offensive. Despite being very effective as long range tank destroyers most were lost to breakdowns and were abandoned.
The surviving 50 were refitted. 48 were re-equipped as Elefants, hull mg added and sent to Italy, two were converted into recovery vehicles. Believed one Elefant was used in the defence of Berlin.
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4 years 9 months ago #11 by grover
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gibbs wrote:

grover wrote: She's not a pretty tank is she, but I wouldnt want to be on the wrong end of her. Is it German? Spanish? Italian? Nice work picking it back up mate


It's German known after the elefant but named the ferdinand after it's designer Dr. Ferdinand Porsche


Makes sense now. Dr. Porsche must have had a thing for putting stuff at the back. Engines, Guns :lol:

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4 years 9 months ago #12 by Von Drinkoften
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Very cool Andrew... will look forward to seeing it under a coat of paint. B)
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4 years 9 months ago #13 by Andrew
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It isn't the most attractive SPG, but I quite like it. It was well loved by the crews too. With 200mm of frontal armour, there wasn't much that could penetrate it.

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4 years 9 months ago #14 by Bishop
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Its funny, Dr. Porsche never ended up with a tank built that he designed. Parts of his efforts ended up in everything. He was, as Jentz says, a car maker, and that his people continue to do very well indeed. The big trouble with these Ferdinands come Elephants were that they were just too big to fix in the field. Like all the big cats, everything weighed a ton. We never think about it as modelers, but just one loop of tracks for the Tiger II weighed 3.5 tons. That's 7 tons for the pair. Imagine trying just to take them off and put them back on. They had to use the drive wheels as capstans to move the tracks in place. These Elephants had the more interesting track configuration, down along and then up again, with body work in the way. It must have been a nightmare.

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4 years 9 months ago #15 by Kiwimav
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Update In Stash:
Lots of 1/35 Armor mainly WWII German and a few Modern British/American pieces, 1/32 Aircraft and 1/48 Aircraft. Aircraft chosen to replicate RNZAF and RAAF types through the years. Some RAF & USAF types exist also.
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4 years 9 months ago #16 by olive drab
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Add to that poor power to weight ratios, no hull MG at Kursk, lack of traverse for the 88mm, and the weight meant in Italy a number were abandoned as they simply sank in soft ground or the over worked transmission blew up. :P

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4 years 9 months ago #17 by Andrew
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I couldn't quite get construction complete on the Ferdinand. Still have a few parts to add here and there, plus the other run of tracks.

I've decided that I'll add an aftermarket tow cable to this, the kit supplied one is rubbish.

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I should be able to complete construction after lunchtime today, while my son has his afternoon nap

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4 years 9 months ago #18 by grover
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Nice Andrew. I'd kaka my pants if I was on the other end of that barrel :pinch:

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4 years 9 months ago #19 by Bishop
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Looking good and large.

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4 years 9 months ago #20 by Andrew
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Update time B)

The majority of kit parts have now been added. I'm leaving off a few bits until painting/final fitting so I don't break them. Other track run has been fitted. I've found a replacement tow cable, just need to get it in from BNA.





Decided on the colour scheme/finish too. This is one of my favourite Ferdinand schemes. Courtesy of the Kagero Panzerwaffe 41-43 book


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4 years 9 months ago #21 by Bishop
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Nice vehicle choice.

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4 years 9 months ago #22 by Kiwimav
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Really nice Andrew...like that Kursk scheme, it'll make that big boy pop...watching intently

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4 years 9 months ago #23 by Glenn
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You have not lost it,very nice clean construction :cheer:
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4 years 9 months ago #24 by Maarten
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like the Kursk scheme B)

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2 years 2 months ago - 2 years 2 months ago #25 by Andrew
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This has made its way back to the bench :woohoo:

Almost complete. I just need to sort the tow cable holders. Using the thicker SKP cable set meant I had to file the bejesus out of the kit bracket to get them to fit. I've done one, just need to shave out the other one

I also noticed that the track tension is wrong. It is so tight, and when I tried to pull them down, the links ended up breaking apart. Looking at the pics, I had them on backwards too :blush: So Friul to the rescue B)

Made all new track pins






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2 years 2 months ago #26 by Andrew
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First side done. 113 links



Need to completely drill out the next side of links, as Friul didnt include left and right handed links

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2 years 2 months ago #27 by Terry
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Those tracks look awesome Andrew. The Friul really do make a significant difference in replicating the natural sag of the tracks on the Ferdinand, especially off the front and rear sprockets. The magic tracks while nicely detailed had a stubborn memory that left a slight upwards camber off the sprockets, whereas the Friul just hang there with a deliberate scale sag that is just so pleasing to the eye. Worth the entry price and all the effort in assembly imo.
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2 years 2 months ago #28 by Andrew
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Thanks Terry :) I do find they are worth it for the bigger German AFVs. Been a few hours of repetition lol

Next side done.


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2 years 2 months ago #29 by Bishop
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Nothing quite like Fruils. Lovely sag going on there.

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2 years 2 months ago #30 by Andrew
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Ok, this one is now ready for paint :woohoo:











Will strip it down and get a primer coat on in the next few days

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2 years 1 month ago #31 by Tiger
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Looking really nice there Andrew.
Got to like those tracks :woohoo:

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