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Modulation experiment - Redux 1 year 1 month ago #1

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Mentioned in the M18 thread that I was going to try a new direction - German AFV's. I've watched a few tutorials on YouTube and read some articles, and here is 'my version':
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Straight Tamiya flat black as an undercoat.






My own Panzer Grey cocktail - 3 parts matt black, two parts XF63 'German Grey' and two parts X4 blue.







Next I added the [above] basic tone I first added 2 parts XF53 'Neutral Grey' and sprayed all the upper hull & turret a light coat, same on the sides but fading out as I got lower down. Then to that previous mix I added a half-part X14 Light Blue and two parts XF66 Light Grey. this was sprayed only on the upper hull and turret roof, some panels masked, some free-handed.






Finally I hand brushed XF53 Neutral Grey straight from the jar on to the high-points. I know this looks incredibly false just now, but under a couple of filter coats, a wash or two and later weathering it will calm right down... I hope

So PLEASE please give me some feedback, for this one I'll need all the help & advice you can give.

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Modulation experiment - Panzer IV 1 year 1 month ago #2

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Looks good, not sure if its the photos but I'm not sure that those high points will fade down that much, they do look awfully bright.
I believe that they call it the Spanish approach where by you focus the light at the front of the subject and work backwards towards the darker areas.
This looks good, it looks like the sun is high above, maybe make the vertical faces slightly darker.

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Modulation experiment - Panzer IV 1 year 1 month ago #3

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Never sure about this. The weathering depending on the situation can wipe out all the subtleties, but it gives the potential to depict AFVs in bright sunlight or in the shade without artificial light sources. You can paint it like it's sitting under a tree without having to make the whole tree and an artificial sun. The sky is the limit, but it depends on the situation you want to depict.

Looking good so far. I agree withe Gary, perhaps darken the highlights a tad, or at least some of them, then you can test the results and adjust as you go. Looking really good so far.

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Modulation experiment - Panzer IV 1 year 1 month ago #4

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Good notes gentlemen, the highlights have already calmed down a lot as they've dried, not nearly as 'shouty' as in these photos. Also Sprayed a couple of coats of Johnsons Klear (another first, usually I brush it on), which has really darkened the whole vehicle right down - it's scarey but I'm constantly reminding myself that I'm 'experimenting' with this project, NOT building a show-entry !!


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For anyone looking to do Panzer Grey the "blue" in the grey came from the film used by the Germans (Agfachrome ) which tinted colours towards the blue spectrum, a brown tint is more historically correct and certainly lighter than provided by the likes of Tamiya.
Modulation is a style "Spanish" some like it and in a more subdued approach is great to highlight fittings and add interest to some panels especially on a single colour vehicle.

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A medium grey filter followed by two medium brown filters (or 'dirty varnish' as I call it). Starting to calm-down now. Will leave it alone over the weekend and early next week, I'll apply a dark pin-wash.






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Moving-on with the same pin-wash that I used on the Tiger - come to think of it, I also used the same chipping style !!





Sponge chipping and oil filter streaks to come next week, again same as the Tiger.

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Looking good Ian.
Colour and chipping are awesome.

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Tamiya flat coat straight from the rattle-can. Another first and now ready for the oil-dot filter next week.






Have a great weekend everyone.

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I use this rattle all the time for the large areas it has to cover. This looks great.

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Modulation experiment - Redux 2 weeks 2 days ago #11

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Three weeks ago I bought a Tamiya Cromwell (new (second) job so treated m'self). Built it right outta da box in about six hours. At the same time I ordered a whole bunch of new (to me) Mig acrylics straight from Snr. Jimmenez in Espana.

Long story short I set about painting it in short bursts, and, well...
















Going to simply go-ahead and say it: after last years failed 'modulation experiment' with the Panzer IV, think this wee thing has come-out a LOT nearer what I was trying to achieve. Please, PLEASE leave me some thoughts and feedback, really want to know what you guys think.

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Well, I think it looks cool. Particularly on a shape with hard edges and a 'single' colour finnish.
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Modulation experiment - Redux 2 weeks 1 day ago #13

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I know you won't mind me giving my Frank opinion even though others may call me a hater as we've talked about this before and you did ask and this is just my opinion as I'm no artist or Pro modeller (these can be found on Trademe apparently).

It looks real nice mate.
But......... I thought the whole modulation thing was from a point of light. So the front of the vehicle would be light and fading to dark as it goes to the back of the vehicle. Your's looks like it is a point of light on each panel.
At least that's what I've picked been doing, maybe I've been doing it wrong lol

Easier to show a picture of my ham fisted Hellcat which still need finishing......
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And that is what confuses me, Gary... I've seen it both ways and it's damn confusing. I copied this panel- by-panel style from a YT tutorial, and later-on when it's been weathered down it looks fine - just now I'm not so sure... honestly, I'm not certain precisely what I'm trying to achieve as an end-result because I'm quite a way out of my comfort zone here.

This is the clip I found this clip on YT




And even tho' this guy works mostly in 1:56, I really like the way his Cromwell turned-out at the end of the project. So, I'm copying as close as I can what he's done without completely understanding the process, just going purely on the aesthetics. I think the key word in all of this is 'experiment'. I may never try this panel-by-panel style again but if I don't try I'll never know, right ?. I'll keep working with it see how it goes. Will bring it to AiC and get some opinions there aswell.


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I think aesthetically it's really pleasing, it can't of been easy doing each of the panels.
To be honest it's more realistic that the focalised light source I've used, especially as it will be viewed from multiple angles, the modulation effect I've used is only good for photos where you mainly see it from one angle.
But when you are viewing the real thing your approach is far better as it lets natural light move with the viewing.
I might have a look at this approach myself, like you I'm more of an aircraft person but I like armour because it lets me switch off my brain (sorry to all the real armour builders, I'm not saying you don't have brains............ :P )

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Gary wrote: I think aesthetically it's really pleasing, it can't of been easy doing each of the panels.



Honestly... it was a doddle ! - couple of pieces of masking tape and a couple of business cards and job done ! :whistle:


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I think there's nothing wrong with what you're doing in giving it a go to see where the technique takes you. Accentuating (or even exaggerating) panels has it's place in modelling to induce artificial light on your subject. Ultimately your model is not I assume going to sit in direct sunlight on display (bright, overcast or anywhere between), so adding some play of light is well worth the effort .
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Modulation experiment - Redux 1 week 6 days ago #18

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The 'experiment' continues, and now has decals and both an 'earth brown' and light green filter:






Please keep the thoughts and comments coming.

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Shiny !!






Tamiya clear straight from the rattle-can.



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Shiny makes the modulation clearer. Looks great actually, but the big question is how do you feel about it Ian, do you think it’s improving the build?

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Honestly, I'm not sold on it. That said I'll continue the project simply because I want a Cromwell in my collection. the key word is 'experiment', and just now I prefer the pre-shade & post-shade method of adding depth & texture to the basic paint tone (as I'm doing with the Marder build).

Chips & streaks next week sometime, in the meantime have a good weekend all, just four weeks to AiC, so if you're still working on 'that' project, better get a move-on !



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Also available with chips, streaks & stains:











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WOW!! Okay, now it’s starting to work for me. The weathering is making sense of the shades on the different panels.
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