The Tiger ii family build 1:16

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1 year 1 month ago #451 by Bishop
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Really just a lot of black stuff that needs cleaning up because the rattle did such a dreadful job, but everything is ready once cleaned up for ivory.

Counterbalances



Spent shell tins done the other day. These can be installed



One of the gunner’s seats



The other



A line up



One of the elevation wheel arms with cast numbers



Two shots of one of the loader’s side arms with wheel and MG barrel case now attached. Note the butterfly nuts





Thankfully these fit nicely to the turret upper floor

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1 year 1 month ago #452 by Bishop
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Quick shots of ivory on. Now lots of details and other colours to add, and a few minor touch ups as well.








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1 year 1 month ago #453 by Bishop
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More details sprayed on with still more corrections.

Turret traverse motors now in their main coat.

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Gunner’s seats needing the back seat covers touched up. The post etc is dark gray.



Uprights with oversprays mostly cleaned up and the MG shell containers painted too. The junction boxes still need more cleaning up, the their main faces are done









And one in the Trumpeter hull


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1 year 1 month ago #454 by Bishop
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More painting and various decals on. These were originally painted on by David Parker. I have no idea how he did it. The decals look great, but release from the paper very quickly, something to watch out for or you have floating decals.

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Decaled items first








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1 year 1 month ago #455 by Bishop
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Other parts now painted











Parts glued and painted.


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1 year 1 month ago #456 by Bishop
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A short update. The traverse motors and gearboxes are installed. This allows for various other things such as the gun triggers to be wired up to the junction boxes. I’m using very thin copper wire inserted into solder for this. I removed the solder I had installed and replaced it with the copper. I similar thing will happen with the main power cable from the junction box to the turret.

Different angles of both baskets





Copper replacement wires



One of the holes drilled in the solder ready for both wires. Just fits


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1 year 1 month ago - 1 year 1 month ago #457 by Bishop
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The triggers are now wired up and the cog covers added to the traverse gears. These took a lot of adjustment and are still not yet perfect CA glue will sort that. The main cable to the junction box from the batteries is now fully painted on each basket and the front basket hangers have been properly shaped to allow them to fit over/ beside the rear inspection point on the traverse gear box. Not sure what Trumpeter was thinking here and wondered why David Parker had cut out this section of the foward hanger. It don’t fit otherwise lovey, simple as that!!

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Cabling and cog covers.



The completed batteries to turret cabling in silver. It stands out against the red oxide, but not the ivory.





Front hanger, note the cut out section to fit the square inspection plate


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1 year 1 month ago - 1 year 1 month ago #458 by Bishop
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Items now starting to be added . Front and rear supports are now in place. The small motor is also attached to the traverse motor. Other items like the MG spares boxes will go in next. Spent shell tins also. Just sitting there in these shots. The next thing will be the gunners’ seats and the connecting shafts for the traverse wheels. Getting very close to having this done so it is probably time to prepare for lots of shells and the dreaded hull shell racks. The JagdTiger ones are fine, but the Tiger ones are way off. I have a corrected set from AFV Modeller. As usual these resin ones are out of shape, but not twisted so, so that will mean that the shells will make them sit right. This would be the worst part of the build so I may as well get it over with.

Firstly shots of all the attached bits







Just to prove there really are two of them


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1 year 1 month ago #459 by Bishop
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And other parts just sitting in place to check fit.

MG box, shell container, engine cover/ commander’s footrest







Gun elevation mechanism cover


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1 year 4 weeks ago #460 by Bishop
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A couple of things left to do, but otherwise these are both up to hull interior stage. I’m going to leave them for now with the two missing items (counter balance and MG shell tin), to be added when they are mates to the turret floor.








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1 year 4 weeks ago #461 by shaunfletcher
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Still looking 'real'. thanks so much for keeping these coming
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1 year 4 weeks ago #462 by Bishop
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The next thing on the agenda is by far the worst because the most complicated. Thankfully, as I reported in an earlier post, the Trumpeter Tiger came not just with the two turrets, but with basically everything to make their interiors with. This includes the turret shell racks.

BUT, the hull shell racks are, to be honest, a disaster. Not just wrong, but wrong enough to fowl the turret if installed as is. Thankfully David Parker made copies of his corrected ones that can can buy from AFV Modeler. That still leaves one set to modify, but at least you have stuff to go by, well you would have if the HL Tiger hull upper dimensions fitted under the HL hull roof. They don’t do the adjustments will also have to take the reduced height along with the other corrections to be made. It’ll be fine, but will be boring and frustrating. The other problem is that each Tiger needs 70 shells and I have 72, so one Tiger will only have two shells.
Well, actually I’ll need to be creative about divvying them up. Here, as they say, goes nothing.



Kit racks



Nice racks


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1 year 3 weeks ago #463 by Bishop
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Approximately 90 Tiger family shells is a very boring thing to be working on, yes I started the JagdTiger ones as well. At least the Panther track links will brighten things up
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1 year 3 weeks ago #464 by Bishop
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The Panther kit is a bit of relief from the boredom of shells, but they are progressing. As I said in the Panther tread the shells are part of a larger cleanup regime. Ten of each shell at a time. Three more sittings should see them done. Then the all need to be polished before spraying. Groan. I’ve always rushed these in the past, but you really can’t in this scale.

Twenty “finished” ones awaiting polishing


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1 year 3 weeks ago #465 by Glenn
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Great work Tony,have loved catching up on these builds
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1 year 2 weeks ago #466 by Bishop
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Shells cleaned up. Now going through a second time to catch any holes to be filled and fine sand in preparation for painting. I also need to add the ends too. Lots of gluing of PE and plastic shell ends coming up in my future. These are little models in themselves. The casings have to be painted, the projectiles also need painting and then decals added. Groan!!


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1 year 2 weeks ago #467 by Bishop
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A quick update. Nothing to report except that the JagdTiger shells as ready for painting. The Tiger shells are waiting while I do Panther track guide horns. ZZzzzzzzzz

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1 year 1 week ago #468 by Bishop
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Finally the shells are moving again. I’ll start the Tiger ammo racks now. Must get on with these jolly things.


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1 year 1 week ago #469 by Bishop
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This is the nightmare of the Tiger ii build. Trumpeter’s ammo racks are just way oversized. Sadly AFV Modeler is out of replacements so I’m stuck. I can’t fudge by using the kit parts in one of the builds as the turret won’t turn as the racks are so wide. Wish I’d bought as second set now. I think what I’ll have to do is cut up each rack into parts, reshape and rejoin them. That way I’ll at
Least get the right rack width. I’ll have to shade down the wooden chocks too.





Sadly size does indeed matter in this case

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1 year 1 week ago - 1 year 1 week ago #470 by shaunfletcher
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You have those that are right that you could copy no? or too fiddly to scratch?
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1 year 1 week ago #471 by Bishop
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Not too fiddly thankfully. It will be slow going, but thankfully I only have to make the projectile end of the racks. Turns out that the Heng Long hull sponsons are wider than on the Trumpeter so I can use cut down kit parts for the shell end of the racks. I can cut the wooden chocks off the projectile end racks and copy the replacement parts. This will curve the shells in towards the middle of the crew area so that the wrap around the turret basket. It will make sense when finally done. More boredom, but it will be worth it.

The beginning


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1 year 3 days ago #472 by Bishop
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Still working on shells. These are the ends of the Tiger ii shells. The need a small piece of plastic across part of each trigger hole, not etched in sadly. Very nice otherwise.

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1 year 2 days ago #473 by Bishop
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Holes sorted. Now to glue them on and start painting shells.





On another note I gave up trying to model replacement shell racks for the HL Tiger. Just ordered some more AFV Modeler ones. Much easier.

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1 year 8 hours ago #474 by Bishop
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Lots of finished shells now waiting for paint. Incredibly, Trumpeter didn’t provide enough ends for the shells so these five have fake ends. This is okay as they will be able to act as inner shells on the racks with ends hidden. Still incredible. Just need the racks now.




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1 year 8 hours ago #475 by shaunfletcher
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Patience of a saint lol
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11 months 4 weeks ago #476 by Bishop
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Finally the parkerised shells done with projectiles to be sorted and a bunch of shells waiting for brass to be sprayed. Then some will have decals. Sadly Trumpeter didn’t supply enough for each shell. Most will be invisible anyway.




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11 months 4 weeks ago #477 by Bishop
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And the brass shells. MR metallic brass is very easy to use and polishes up very nicely.





Now all I have to do is paint the projectiles add decals.

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11 months 3 weeks ago #478 by Henry
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Hi Bishop
I was wondering if you thought that Tamiyas XF-60 dark yellow needs to be lighten down and I have seen Tamiya has a new dark yellow (XF-88).

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11 months 3 weeks ago #479 by Bishop
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I would say not. Weathering will give to shades you want.

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11 months 3 weeks ago - 11 months 3 weeks ago #480 by Maarten
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Nice and Shiny

'' I could sense things were about to kick off, so I got out of there !''


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